JANICK GERS
It is not as though IRON MAIDEN haven't blazed plenty of trails across
the heavy metal landscape already. One might think that selling upwards
of fifty million records and redefining a genre when it was starting to
sag around the middle was more than meeting the heavy metal call to arms,
one might think this but, only when the subject is other than the beast
that is IRON MAIDEN. Though they would be quick to tell you that they
never really left, MAIDEN is back and more powerful than anyone could
have ever conceived.
A PC video game, "ED HUNTER," is this summers reason to wake band mascot
Eddie from his slumber not to mention the army of stage hands and crew
that it takes to stage a MAIDEN event. The game itself is built
completely around the world of MAIDEN and visits all the famous scenes
capes from the classic album covers. Thugs throwing bottles at you as
you shoot the popup portraits of the band and even Eddie himself, all to
the music of IRON MAIDEN. Strictly family entertainment me thinks! A bit
less violent and the real focus of what MAIDEN does are the twenty
"Greatest Hits" as chosen by the fans via the MAIDEN web site. Pure
capitalistic democracy in action here on this three CD release.
Janick Gers has ridden the MAIDEN beast for the last decade of its being
and has given fans their moneys worth on both album and stage, now he is
part of what can only be described as a heavy metal guitar army. Along
with fellow axe wielders, Dave Murray and Adrian Smith, Gers has
engineered a faster, broader and meaner MAIDEN that is currently huffing
and puffing its way across America and soon, Europe. By Spring of next
year there should be a new album featuring the beefed up six man lineup
of Gers, Smith, Murray, bassist Steve Harris drummer Nicko McBrain and
the most popular MAIDEN mouth, Bruce Dickinson. What more could the
metal world ask for? And lest you be fooled into thinking this is just
some quick cash scheme masquerading as a "reunion", well, get thee to a
show and then you will witness a sizable chunk of metal's past glory as
well as a glimpse into a very exciting metal future. Janick was kind
enough to sit and chat before the mighty MAIDEN's Detroit gig.
David Lee To go out on tour in support of a video game release is a bit
novel.
JANICK GERS I don't think that is has been done before but we will tour
on anything! We love touring. It just gives us an excuse to go out on
tour and since we have this band together, I think that it is great to
get out on tour rather than to record straight away. It gets the band
all bedded in and confident, especially with the three guitar thing. I
just think that it was a great idea and I love playing live so it gets me
out playing.
DL Well, the band has been playing regularly despite the lineup changes
over the last several years. It was only a year ago that you were in
town with Blaze.
JG The last tour that we did, we went out in January and we finished in
December, at the end of the year, so we did a full year and took a little
bit of time off and that is when this thing happened and we decided it
would be great to get out their and tour again. To me, this is what this
band is about. The prerequisite of IRON MAIDEN is to have a touring
band. We record and enough to tour and, for me, that is the exciting
thing.
DL The three guitar lineup is a pretty exciting concept. Is this going
to be a MAIDEN/SKYNYRD hybrid of some sort because the songs were not
originally written with three guitars in mind.
JG That is true but on every album there is a lot of guitars that are
over dubbed. a lot of higher octaves, lower octaves, harmonies
sometimes, even three part harmonies. Sometimes, harmonies were there is
a guitar underlying everything and when you play live you have to decide
which ones you are going to use and which ones you are not going to use
and sometimes you have to leave quite a bit out. From that respect, we
try to do a lot of things from the album that normally would have to be
left out. Also, we have added a lot more to it, on some of the songs we
have detuned down to D on one guitar so it is the MAIDEN sound with a
down tuned D underneath it and it adds a little bit of fatness to it.
They are only subtle changes and only to make the band sound bigger and
louder. On some of them (the songs) we are doing three part harmonies
and there some solos where we are doing joint solos so it is kind of like
what we would call in the studio an ADT where you would have one solo on
one side and another solo on the other side and sometimes it is only a
millisecond behind and it kind of like double tracking, so, we have done
a bit of that. It has been very creative, what we have done. We got
together on a couple of days and went through every song and said "How
can we improve this song as opposed to just sticking another guitar on
it?" I think that the maturity of each of us and the musical ability of
each of us means that we don't have to get everything all equal and
become all excited about who is going to get the solos and stuff. We can
use the best bit of what we have in the songs and the songs sound better.
Offstage, I can't tell you because I am not out there but on stage I can
hear everything. I can hear all three different guitars and all the
different stuff. I can hear the three part harmonies and all the
underneath stuff and that is exactly what we wanted to do. The only
other band that really does that, as you mentioned before, is LYNRYD
SKYNYRD but that is more of a country -rock band, I have never heard a
band this heavy do it. I think that we have enough themes and threads
going through the tunes where we can have that guitar and really feel
that we have made the band heavier and more colorful.
DL It would seem that the natural progression for it to take is for the
songs that you were involved in from the writing process onwards, for you
to be a bit more dominant over them than say some of the older material
that Adrian (Smith) wrote?
JG Not really. The songs that were chose were from the poll that we put
on the Internet and the kids chose twenty songs that particular week and
we put them on "ED HUNTER" and when we decided to tour we thought that
the first argument or the first problem that we are going to have is "Who
is picking the songs?" So, we decided that we would do the "ED HUNTER"
set. We leave off one or two and change it around a little bit but and
that was it! One argument straight out the window. Solos are worked out
amongst ourselves so that everyone has a solo here and there and I think
that each of us is big enough to accept that we are each a different type
of guitarist.
DL And you are not nineteen anymore so the individual ego is probably a
little bit less important than the whole project?
JG I feel kind of eighteen still! But, a bit more mature about it and I
think that is a good thing. Maybe I am grown up a bit!(laughs)
DL The shortness of this tour and the fact that there is a new lineup of
the band with three guitars would seem to lend itself to the recording of
yet another live album, is that going to happen?
JG No, we are going to do a new album.
DL Are you recording any of the shows for future use as "B" - sides or
anything like that?
JG There will be tapes rolling all the time and what we want to do is put
some of these shows on the Internet to be beamed down in case you want to
listen to a show, that is the plan. I haven't heard any of the tapes yet
but the thing about live shows, to me, is that it is spontaneous and
trying to get that out is a show itself. If you want to stand and play,
you can play it perfect every night but it would be boring to me. If you
were going to do a live album you would spend more time trying to get
everything precise whereas a normal live show is precise but you take
chances. That is what playing live is about to me, taking chances.
Sometimes you come up with egg all over your face and I love that! That,
is rock and roll. For too long now it has become very cabaret and
everything is worked out and everything is cabaret and that is not what
it was meant to be. It was meant to be a medium where you took chances
and, I think, that disappeared out of rock music for a while and I like
bands, when I go and see them, and I know that it is not choreographed
and he took a chance and there is something there. He took a chance and
maybe it didn't work but that is exciting and that is the whole point.
That is what Hendrix did and that is what Page and DEEP PURPLE and all of
those bands did. I love that and if you are going to make a live album
you just have to stand there and play because it is going out live, these
are live events as it were but we have got some tapes. To me, this isn't
a reunion as such, it is a step forward. We are moving forward and there
is no way that the band is just getting back together for a tour and some
money. For starters, this is a new lineup and the second thing is that
this is not just a bunch of old farts getting together. I am not against
that, and like the SABBATH thing, they are getting together and that is
great but they are not getting together looking forward, they are looking
back. I love them and that is great but his is different. We are
fifteen years younger then them and I think that we can look forward. We
want to go into the studio and make what could possibly be the best IRON
MAIDEN album ever made. We have the musical ability and the technique to
do that but so, it is just down to us. I don't know if we will do it but
that is what we want to do so, it is a leap forward and for me not a leap
backwards. Now, we are touring with songs that are all old songs but we
are touring a project that we put out now. We could play new stuff but
that would be bootlegged and on the Internet and all over the world
before we had a chance to really get the songs together and I don't think
that would be fair either. We finish this tour in August, in Greece and
we go to write until November and we start the album in November.
Hopefully, we will be finished with the album by March and back out
touring just after March. That is why I see us all going forward and I
don't see us looking back to 1980 and going "Oh that was great when we
did this." I am looking forward and to me this is not a reunion, this is
a new band really. I feel a force pushing us forward. If it was us just
looking back, I don't think that we would have done this. I know that I
wouldn't have done it.
DL IRON MAIDEN has grown over the years to have this kind of leadership
role in the metal community, do you recognize or accept that role?
JG I don't feel that we belong to any genre of music. Bruce would
disagree with me on this but, to me, it is just music. People talk about
heavy metal coming back, to me it is just music and I don't catagorize
music. I have never categorized music and I don't think that you should.
I think that media people do and they have to in order to write about it
but to me it is either good music or bad music. When I listen to
something I think "Hey, that is really good." I don't think "That is
heavy metal so I like it." I don't see it in those terms. a good song
is a good song if it is a good slow song or a good fast song. What I
think happened to heavy metal was that a lot of the younger bands thought
that if they just play real loud and noisy, that is heavy metal but it is
not heavy metal! Go back and listen, it is not. So, you have lost
melody and you have singers who go GROWWWWWLLL! There is nothing wrong
with that, bless the people who do it and I wish them luck but to me, the
three great singers that I listened to when I was a kid all had melody.
Plant and Ian (Gillan) and Paul Rodgers, those guys all had melody. All
the other guys like Anderson and Jagger have all got melody in their
voice and the moment that heavy metal kind of [messed] itself up was when
it lost the melody and it stopped making songs and only made riffs. Give
a riff to Jimmy Page he would give you a melody back. Give a riff to
Tony Iommi he would come out with something like "Iron Man" with an
incredible riff and a powerful melody. Give it to some of these younger
bands and it would "bebe gurggle be beblacch!" Some kids might hook into
that and get the physical aggression and I want aggression but I also
want colors. That is what LED ZEPPELIN and FREE had, color. I want to
have color and I don't want to have somebody screaming down the back of
my neck. Having Bruce back is brilliant because he is one of the best
singers there is and I feel that we are on top of our game.
Janick spies a copy of "THE GILLAN TAPES" sitting on the table that
someone has asked him to sign.
JG That is great! I haven't seen that photo in years. I remember them
pictures(laughs). That is a blast from the past right there! I can't
even remember it all. I need a minute to sort it all out. I think this
one is Reading festival and I tried to cram the guitar up his(John McCoy)
bottom but I caught him in the bollocks! After the gig he is chasing me
around the dressing room and I am like "What is the matter John?" He was
yelling at me "I'll [obscene gerund] kill you!" "Sorry John, I didn't know it was
your bollocks!" (Laughs) Ah that does bring back memories. There is the
hat that he used to wear and we used to call him Davy Crocket, but not to
his face of course! I will write "Hi Ian" on here so that when you give
it to Ian to sign he can read it.
DL I'm not sure he'll be back here. The last time he got arrested after
the show.
JG Ian?
DL Yeah, I guess he wacked one of the security guards on the head with
his microphone.
JG He is always doing that! The best one ever was when there was this
kid yelling from the balcony and John McCoy went around the side and up
the balcony while I was doing a solo and when the kid turned around John
was standing there and going "Aaaughhh!" And then chased him down the
corridor. Oh! An even better one, someone was spitting at Ian once and
Ian jumped down off of the stage and the crowd parted and the guy just
stood there and when Ian landed in front of him the guy ran out of the
hall. He got out of the hall but Ian chased after him and the guy was
last seen with Ian running down the road after him!(laughs)
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