DEEP PURPLE DIGEST #6
In this issue:
Critical Mass Approaching and Review Notes
Doug figures out the DP-Iron Maiden connection
Re: Mark IV Live from Bolinhed
Another Re: on Mark IV Live
Shades of Deep Purple Review
Spiros remembers way back when in 1981...
Trond speaks on Woman From Tokyo and Dean eats humble crow pie
Our Man in Macedonia Comments on More Mk IV
Matt remembers way back when in 1982...
A Deep Purple story from David Wilson
Question on Lord's Equipment
Svante dogpiles on the Editor
Question on DP set lists
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>From the Moderator: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Well, our membership is now at just under 100 members and I'm now getting
more submissions than subscription requests, so you guys have done it and
made it happen! I can host the list, but YOU, the fans, make it possible and
more than just one guy sending his opinions to a bunch of people.
A side note: if you review an album, please include a rating from 1-10 on
what you think of it. If you don't, I'll send a private mail to you asking
for one so I can expand the information on the Critic's Corner page, which
is coming along nicely. Compare the CTTB reviews to those with just one (or
less) and you'll see how much better those pages can become with your rating
and review.
Keep those cards and letters coming!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Darnell
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Deep Purple Digest #5
>Here are the bands/performers to link back: (some easy, some tough)
>Iron Maiden (trivial)
Hmmmmm. Janick Gers played in Gillan? Steve Harris' first concert?
DD
[Ed- told you all it was trivial! Now do the hard ones...]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bolinhed(at-a-domain-named)aol.com
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: Deep Purple Digest #5
Re: DP Mark IV Live:
I would agree that the Aussie shows were their best, but I would also say
that the US shows had some great moments. The King Biscuit/Foxbat show was
mostly good albeit with plenty of now-silly arena rock-isms ("We're gonna
play some rock'n'roll fer ya"....no kidding, David!!!) - the best take of
"Lady
Luck," a great "Love Child," a TRULY ripping "Owed To G," a pleasing
"Lazy"....I think Miami 2/76 is good too. Japan is not so hot, but if you
hear
the bootleg of the FULL "Last Concert In Japan" it DOEs show that the new
stuff was played OK (they do Drifter" too!) and the 2nd night at Wembley is
just OK. I don't know that Bolin COULDN'T play the "Burn" riff, more that he
didn't want to do it - or much of anything, seemingly - "the way Ritchie did
it." But for the money I will say I was much happier hearing DP Mk. IV doing
the new stuff live; no one touches Mark II for Mark II. Bolin did not want
to learn
that stuff, and really didn't!!
As for Bolin being "average," it's common knowledge that the Purp years were
not his best, but there are some moments of shred on KBFH that even Ritchie
couldn't touch!! And the sonic mayhem on "Getting Tighter" and "Love Child"
and "Owed To G" from that CD is not just a fast-licks thing but real feel
and
innovation - I particularly like the way he matches "whoops" with Hughes.
And
rhythmically, he REALLY clicks with Paice throughout. But, check out his
solo
stuff for some true genius.
An off-topic side note - Bolin has/had some of the problems that Morse has
now: if you listen to DP today and are disappointed that you do not hear
Ritchie's sound, you're only creating a bad situation where none should
exist.
Plenty of people complain that Steve is not Ritchie and that Abandon doesn't
sound like the old Purple. That IS the point; all 5 guys want a new Purple.
Ditto for Mark IV; they had a different singer, guitarist, and bass player -
and thus songwriting team - than Mark II. Anyone who expected to hear the
same noises from them just doesn't get it. Mark IV was a completely
different band, as different as Mark I really - but a whole lot better
IMHO!!!!!
Glenn Hughes is indeed much better today. I used to cringe at the sound of
his voice when DP was all I knew of him; I went to the Denver Bolin Tribute
two weeks back and Glenn did an AMAZING set that included Mark IV stuff like
"Owed To G," "Getting Tighter," and "You Keep On Moving," as well as some of
his Trapeze songs "Coast to Coast" and "Your Love Is Alright" as well as
plenty of solo Bolin. He has a brand-new CD out from last year's Bolin
Tribute
that is well worth getting for any fan of his or Tommy's stuff. That was
what
converted me to liking his stuff today ("Feel" etc).
Other DP stage lines - "God bless yer!!" "This is a song for my friend,
Stevie Wonder."
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-----Original Message-----
From: STONE967(at-a-domain-named)aol.com
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 12:38 AM
Subject: In Response to Darren
I haven't heard of a lot inspiring guitar work by Tommy Bolin during his
tenure in Purple, but I have been told that he broke his arm which (along
with
the drugs) may have added to the equation. I think that the Blackmore songs
Bolin did the worst on and that may be because he was trying to hard not to
sound like Ritchie. I'm not trying to be a huge support of Tommy Bolin, but
I
just think there were several factors involved in why he sounded the way he
did in Purple.
Jim Stone
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-----Original Message-----
From: Masser of Reality
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 12:45 AM
Subject: Shades of Deep Purple review
1. And the Address: This comes off as a long organ rock intro to "Hush"
blackmore and lord are the two most noticeable on the track with the two
switching off on doing solos. excellent organwork, excellent guitar,
excellent drums, etc.
2. Hush: This a song that was written by joe south and performed by
billy joe royal before deep purple did it, this is an instance where the
band (in this case deep purple) made it their own there's a lot of nice
organ work and guitar again, and is much better than bj's version
3. One More Rainy Day: very slow and beatlesque, no straight intensity
to it but a good song all the same
4. Prelude:Happiness: excellent song, mostly an organ focused
instrumental
5. I'm so glad: good solo by by blackmore, excellent basswork by nic
simper excellent vocal work by evans
side two
6. Mandrake Root: it grabs onto a groove and never lets go. nuff said
7. Help: slowed down version of the beatles classic very interesting and
very good
8. Love Help Me: excellent showcase of blackmore's guitar, and nic
simper's bass
9. Hey Joe: Most well known as a Hendrix song this version is done at
the slow speed that hendrix did it at with bullfighting music thrown in
excellent song
Notes: I love this album and would recommend it to anyone for the superb
work of all involved. The album cover says that Jon Lord is known as the
Walrus to his fellow band mates. This is also great example of organ
rock
I picked up Jesus Christ Superstar with ian gillan it's quite good
and i will make a tape of it if anyones intrested
e-mail me PRIVATELY at kevin_masser(at-a-domain-named)hotmail.com
that is all
kevin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Spiros Papageorgiou
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: I knew DP rule when...
Well, it all started in 1981 for me too. By that time I was 11 and my
family made a monthly trip to the US to visit our relatives there. In
New York me and my older brother decided to spend our earnings to buy
our first Hi-Fi, since electronics where very cheaper in America at the
time. Along with the Hi-Fi we also bought some records from a huge (for
our unused to that stuff eyes anyway) record store. Among them were -of
course- Deepest Purple and Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow. My brother was
already a Hard Rock fan at the time and I had no complaints about it.
When we returned home to Greece, i began to listen to these LPs more
than the others for some reason but it wasn;t until 3 years later that I
became a Die Hard fan: In 1984 DP (as everbody knows) reunited and the
whole thing won very large publicity even at countries like Greece. One
could read about the story of DP, the various band members, the split of
1976, the reunion, Rainbow, etc. No need to say that I bought Perfect
Strangers right away after I saw the video clip in a TV show. I was
amazed. What a record!
Well, the rest came natural. In the next month or two I used to go every
Saturday to the Athens flee market and sweep every DP LP from the used
records shops. Then followed all the Rainbow, Whitesnake, Gillan, and so
on records...
So there you have it!
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Spiros Papageorgiou
Computer Engineer
e-mail: spapag(at-a-domain-named)hotmail.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Trond
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 7:54 AM
Subject: Woman From Tokyo
Da Listmaster Scribed Thusly:
>>>
>From Dean Webb
dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
OK, so what's up with Gillan? Every time I get an album with a live version
of "Woman From Tokyo" on it, he doesn't sing anything prior to the quiet bit
in the middle.
<<<
Incidently, the *complete* version of "Woman From Tokyo" (with the quiet
middle bit and the outro piano solo) was added to the setlist on the first
gig after Ritchie Blackmore left in 1993 (all the December 1993 gigs in
Japan with Satriani on guitar had the full version, for instance), and it
has been played in every single show (meaning several hundred;-) since
then. It can be found officially on the most excellent "Live at the Olympia
'96" 2CD set released last year, and on more bootlegs than you want to know
about the existance of. ;-)
I guess this means Ian Gillan was *not* the person who wanted to play only
the two first verses of this song.
Btw, Deep Purple played what I seem to remember was a *nearly* complete
version of the song on the Japanese tour in 1985. I think the quiet middle
part was included, but the piano solo left out. I'll have to check my
"Woman From Osaka" boot to be sure, though...
Someone over in alt.music.deep-purple also claimed that they saw DP play
this song live in the US in 1973, but I've never seen this verified on
tapes etc. It has normally been believed that "Mary Long" was the only song
from "Who do we think we are!" that made it into the 1973 live set.
But, Dean - do get "Live at the Olympia '96" and listen to the complete WFT
- its a treat, and has been a very pleasant experience at the four gigs
I've seen with DP since 1994. (Once with Satriani and thrice with Morse).
That moment when the riff sets in after the quiet part is pure magic when
you're in the audience.
Cheers,
--
Trond
[Ed- (munch, munch) this is the sound of me eating crow... I will get the
Olympia CD when I can. You wanna do an official review and rub it in
further? :-) Seriously, glad to hear WFT live is something IG can and will
do!]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ilija Gospodinov
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 8:11 AM
Subject: Mark 4 Studio and Live Review
Well, a lot of discussion is being developed about Come Taste the Band
on the list, so I supposed I could also write something since it's an
album I enjoy a whole lot. When I first got my fingers on CTTB, I was
totally into Mark 2, studying it and enjoying it to the most. But there
was one fact that I didn't recognise at the time: they had their peak in
1972, and after Made in Japan the whole creativity thing just started to
fade, although WDWTWA? is still one great achievement, similar to
Fireball, one great big "out of space" album. So, I started listening to
CTTB all the time, I liked the different sound and the raw energy out of
that album a LOT! I was amazed and still am by Comin' Home, Lady Luck,
Dealer, etc. not to mention Love Child or You keep on moving. Those
numbers are maybe a definition for me of how a real, hard rock album
should sound, just pure rock & roll. I have already heard at that time
that DP sounded very bad on the world tour afterwards, and that proved
parttly true when I heard "Last concert in Japan" but I also think that
the guys behind the mixers did not do a very good job. Then, I got one
great concert " On the wings of a Russian Foxbat" from California 1976,
which was a great experience for me, apart from Coverdale being very
tired with his voice and Bolin making some bad sounds from time to time.
The thing is that they sonded, how can I put this, like playing a rock
gig in some place with a lot of alchohol all around, the sound was very
wild, just clean energy spreading all over, and not to mention Paicey,
who is incredible on the recording, Lord who is the big leader of the
band at that time and that amazing singing from Hughes on Georgia on my
mind and This time around. I still cannot believe the voice on those
numbers. As a last thing, my big conclusion is that they were able to
sound very, very good even being in general in a bad form, and that will
always be enough for me. I will always come back to those albums and
enjoying Mark 4.
--
Ilija Gospodinov
Rotaract Club Skopje International Officer
e-mail: starter(at-a-domain-named)mpt.com.mk
phone: ++38991 451508
ICQ #14346225
address: Jane Sandanski No.86 5/6
91000 Skopje, MACEDONIA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Runyon
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 8:24 AM
Subject: When Deep Purple was THE band
I was a junior in High school in 1982 and had already collected the Black
Sabbath and the Led Zeppelin catalogs. I kept hearing about how good Deep
Purple was, but I wasn't impressed with what I had heard from Rainbow. A
friend of mine lent me his copy of In Rock. I was immediately hooked and
bought all of the Mark II lineup's albums. The other lineups didn't do much
for me at the time, but I learned to like the Mark III lineup later. By the
time I got seriously hooked on Purple Ian Gillan had joined Black Sabbath
and I had discovered that Ian Paice was playing for Gary Moore (another one
of my favorites). Got to see DP on the Perfect Strangers and the House of
Blue Light tours (although the House of Blue Light show was too similar to
the Perfect Strangers show). I lost interest in the band after Ian was fired
and have just now gotten back into the band. When will they be in Phoenix? I
live 4 hours away but from what I have heard about the shows it will be
worth the drive to see them.
Matt Runyon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Wilson
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 9:28 AM
Subject: Deep Purple Story
Howdy Purple People,
I have a small bit of a story that is Purple related for ya.
Since you have all read my review of the Detroit show, I will tell you a
little bit about what went on after the show from my perspective.
Actually, the whole day was pretty cool. I had been at the venue
since about 3:pm with my wife and another writer. We were to interview
some of the members of Dream Theater about a couple of their side
projects(Liquid Tension Experiment and The Explorers Club, get them!).
This was done and fun was had by all. Great bunch of fellows in DT.
Their management set us up with all day all access passes which I
utilized mainly, for watching Keith Emerson from about two inches in
front of his leslies.
After returning to the front of house and watching the remainder
of the show my party ventured down to meet with the after show Deep
Purple contingent backstage. The people working for Purple were all very
nice and rapped with anyone who wanted to. I just happen to know that
the original Rainbow keyboardist, Mickey Lee Soule, has been working for
Deep Purple so I asked one of the crew if, when he was free, would Mickey
come have a chat. Turns out that in my lightly drunken state my eyes
couldn't focus enough to recognize that the man I asked to find me MLS
was himself MLS! I was a little embarrassed but not so much that I
wouldn't ask him to autograph my Rainbow and Elf cds. We had a nice
little chat and then Ian Paice, Steve Morse and Roger Glover arrived to
meet everyone.
This part I will make short, They all were gracious and took
photos and signed the rather large pile of cd covers that I was
holding.(The entire Deep Purple catalog!) They all chatted with us for a
while and didn't seem the least bit annoyed that I had so much stuff for
them to sign. It would help if you could see what my minds eye is seeing
right now. Everyone has one photo or a t-shirt or some single object to
be signed and I hand them this pile of DP/Rainbow/Whitesnake ect covers.
Ian G. was to come out but he was busy giving a statement to the
police about an incident that happened during the bands encore. Somebody
got up on the stage and was mauled a bit by security. Ian told the
mauler to let the guy go and that "He's just here for the music." but
security was deaf to all this. (I do not wish to be called as a witness
and I saw nothing but...) As the story goes (remember, I didn't see a
thing, so keep your supeana!) Ian whacked the security guy on the head
several times with his microphone! You could hear it going
Whack!..Whack..Whack!.. right through the PA.(I didn't hear anything
either!) I always liked the mans voice and his stage presence but I have
a whole new respect for him now. In any case, he wasn't backstage so the
pile of cd covers that I had for him to sign will have to wait until next
time.
Anyway, that is my little story. Just thought I would contribute
a little something since you asked. Take care, David
Oh yeah! Here is my cd review that I am sending out to the usual
publications.
DEEP PURPLE
"Abandon"
CMC International
"PURPENDICULAR" was another turning point for these hard rock
pioneers. It signaled the final departure of Ritchie Blackmore and a
definite stylistic left turn. That turn continues here and would seem to
be equally as well conceived as its predecessor.
Where "PURPENDICULAR" occasionally seemed a bit tense, "ABANDON"
is fully relaxed and free flowing. This is, most assuredly, not to say
that the material is soft. It is just very very obvious that the band is
playing with, well, with total abandon!
More discriminating radio stations have been playing the lead
track, "Any Fule Kno That" for some time now and the track is fairly
indicative of what you will find on the remainder of the album.
Virtuosity without pretension and only enough pomp for the given
circumstance.
Steve Morse just smokes throughout and is, finally, a worthy
collaborator and occasional opponent to Jon Lords organ. "Seventh
Heaven" justifies this statement in total.
"Fingers to the Bone" shows a softer side of PURPLE that only
rarely comes out this well.
"Jack Ruby" would seem to have little to do with the guy who shot
the guy who shot JFK but it is an incredibly pleasing blues romp
none-the-less. More Morse guitar mastery.
"Whatsername" is classic DEEP PURPLE with a Roger Glover bass
line that will surely loosen a bit of dental work if played with any
regularity.
If I didn't know better I would say that Ian Paice was dabbling
with a drum machine here and there on "‘69" but that just couldn't be.
Why bother when you are easily the greatest rock drummer of all time?
The song itself serves as a showcase for his beating and should be
required listening for any aspiring drummer.
The reworking of classic material is, often, a thinly veiled
attempt to get a record a little bit more attention but in the case of
"Bludsucker", inclusion is not only justified, it is a mandatory. It
stands so far apart from the original that one could hardly imagine
anyone but Steve Morse playing on the track. Thirty years on and Ian
Gillan still has some of the best pipes in the business. Incredible.
The last two records that DEEP PURPLE have issued stand head and
shoulders above anything that they have done since "MACHINE HEAD". With
any luck this version of the group will last until the band ceases to
exist at all. When that happens at least we will have this document of
DEEP PURPLE at their creative and performing height to hold on to.
[Ed- Got that guys? This email never happened. Mum's the word. If anybody
asks you about IG, just yell "I never saw any mike stand" and run like the
wind. Take no chances.]
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-----Original Message-----
From: HUITZILOPOCHTLI OSIRIS
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 1:15 PM
Subject: Lord's Equipment
I just recently saw DP live and have a question for those who are
more enlightened than me. Lord had these huge white cabinets behind him
with things at the top rotating around in sync with what he was playing.
Awesome effect! Is this the legendary Leslie rotating speaker deal?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Svante Pettersson
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Woman from Tokyo
At 23:29 1998-09-01 -0500, you wrote:
>Did he EVER sing that lovely middle part outside the studio?
Yep! On the last two tours they have done the complete version of WfT.
/Svante
[Ed- OOOOF! Another one, from the left... a one-two punch and the
moderator's rant is DE-FLATED! Thanks to those who set me straight and
thanks also to Steve Morse for letting Ian G. do his thang. If IG will send
me a tape of him singing it the whole way through on stage, I'll forget
everything I ever heard about a certain mike stand...] :-)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ilija Gospodinov
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 1:42 PM
Subject: Song repertoire '98??!!
Just one little thing, if anyone could write the new 1998 Deep Purple
live repertoire I would be mostly gratefull, I saw them live in Budapest
in 1996, so I would like to notice the changes in the repertoire very
much. Thanx!!!
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Ilija Gospodinov
Rotaract Club Skopje International Officer
e-mail: starter(at-a-domain-named)mpt.com.mk
phone: ++38991 451508
ICQ #14346225
address: Jane Sandanski No.86 5/6
91000 Skopje, MACEDONIA
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