DEEP PURPLE DIGEST #39
In this issue:
On the trivia quiz
The Grind
Authenticity
The C3 and other stuff
Page & Coverdale
Coverdale/Page again
Jeff Thunder
Ian Gillan Autobiography
Jeff Fenholt
Ritchie??? NICE?!?!?!?
Hiya from the editor
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hatheway-SSI
To: 'dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com'
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 11:07 AM
Subject: reply
>>7. "I'm not a violent man by nature, but imagine lying in bed, reading,
>>at about three in the morning, when an axe head smashes through your
>>door, disappears, then smashes through again and again, making matchwood
>>of it. I leapt up, in my underwear, and went for him as he disappeared
>>down the corridor."A band member describing an incident at The Hermitage
>>where the band was recording FireBall Who's talking about whom?
>no idea
That would be Roger referring to Ritchie and his axe. RB wanted something
like the legs off a table, or something, for firewood, and was for one of
his seances. RG was pissed that RB wouldn't leave him alone, etc.
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From: Paul Sommer
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 4:37 AM
Subject: The Grind
Hello
I was just wondering why on the album " Wings of a Russian Foxbat" the
Tommy Bolin song , " Homeward Strut " off the album Teaser, is titled "
The Grind" ( also off Teaser) ??
Teaser is a great album with the 2 songs mentioned, plus Savanah Woman
and Dreamer being my favorites., By the way, does anyone know if Glenn
Hughes provided the vocals for the song Dreamer ??
Towards the end where he starts to yell his lyrics, it sounds alot like
Hughes, and he is thanked by Tommy in the " My thanks goes to.." section
.
See ya
Paul Sommer
sharkie59(at-a-domain-named)hotmail.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Sommer
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 4:54 AM
Subject: Authenticity
Hi
I was in a record store in the city last week (sydney), and for sale in
a big framed display, was a copy of Made in Japan (vinyl), signed by the
band, the neck off of one of Ritchies trashed guitars (during the tour
), one of Gillan's microphones, a skin off Paicies snare, and two signed
drumsticks.
The store, ( Utopia Records ) were asking $2500 for the package. I know
that if authentic, this price would accumulate in years to come.
Does anyone know what happened to Ritchies guitars during the tours of
Japan . Did he actually trash them??
Along with this stuff ( all in a framed glass case), there was a plaque
which had info about the items. One was that the guitar neck had
carvings between the frets and Blackmore used to do this to all his
guitars so as to keep his finger positionings the same each time.
What do people think the chances are that this stuff is authentic??
Another display at the store was a copy of Tommy Bolins "Teaser" on
record, signed by Bolin. They were asking $1000 for this.
This record store has heaps of interesting items for sale, along with a
hell of a lot of cd's. A while ago , they had a signed Hendrix guitar.
Anyway, i thought you might be interested in this.
Cheers
Paul Sommer
sharkie59(at-a-domain-named)hotmail.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Eduardo Avello
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 6:24 AM
Subject: Jon Lord's C-3, Hammond clones, and an apology.
Regarding Richard Poustie’s questions and comments about Jon Lord and
Hammond organs:
About Jon Lord’s C-3: According to a short interview Jon Lord gave to
Keyboard Magazine this year, Jon states his C-3 went out of service
during the early soundchecks for the House of Blues series of gigs in
L.A. (early this year). Therefore, they decided to go for a rental B-3,
since the old C-3 (well, at this point, all Hammond organs are old!)
wasn’t reliable enough. To my knowlwdge, this C-3 is the one Jon bought
from Christine McVie after his previous and original C-3 died in 1973.
What I don’t know is what happened to the McVie C-3 (to call it
somewhat). I guess Jon still owns it. I don’t know if it’s in playing
condition at all. Anyway, this would be a real collectable trophy
regardless the condition it might be in.
I attended the first of those four House of Blues concerts in L:A. early
this year. Jon played the rental B-3, and it seemed the two Leslie
cabinets were also rentals, since there were not painted in white.as the
ones he used during the 1997 gigs.
Actually, when Deep Purple reformed for the recording of The Battle
Rages On album, Jon used Rithcie Blackmore’s cut-down (portable) B-3 for
the tour. This organ is the same one every keyboard player in Rainbow
used al least since the Rising tour (the one appearing on the inside
cover picture of Tony Carey on the On Stage album) up to at least the
Straight Between the Eyes tour. During the TBRO tour, Jon indeed used a
Hammond Suzuki XB-2 digital single manual organ on top of the Rainbow
cut-down B-3, as Richard wrote in his post. According to an interview
with Jon Lord that appeared in Keyboard Magazine (January 1993), the
idea was to use the XB-2 keyboard as a MIDI controller, and also as a
back up for the B-3, in case it went under any malfunction during live
performance. This way, he would still be able to finish the set playing
an organ after all. I think Rithcie Blackmore might have owned this
cut-down B-3 due to the high rotation of keyboardists (and other members
as well) in the Rainbow line ups. Instead of worrying about each new
memmber not having a Hammond at their disposal, he might had thought it
would made things easier if Rainbow (or himself) had already gotten an
organ ready to go. Besides, the organ sound would stay the same. I don’t
know what might have happened to this cut-down B-3. I guess after
Rithcie left Deep Purple the last time, he also took this B-3 with him.
I don’t know where this particular organ might be right now. During the
Stranger in Us All tour (at least during the South American leg), Paul
Morris wasn’t playing that cut-down Hammond B-3. Actually, he wasn’t
playing any Hammond organ at all.
On the Hammond wannabes topic: As Richard wrote, there are many Hammond
clones in the market. Some are actual keyboards, while others are sound
modules: Viscount D9, Roland VK-7, Hammond Suzuki XB-2, XB-3 and XC-3,
Oberheim OB-3, etc. Also, considering the out of production keyboards,
you can also bring out the Korg CX-3 and BX.-3 organs (single and double
manual, respectively), or the Roland VK-1000 organ. I’ve had the
opportunity to play most of them. I think the decision on which one to
go for depends on what your expectations are. In my opininon, there’s
nothing that can replace the sound and feel of a real Hammond organ
matched with a Leslie cabinet. But if you happen to spend most of the
time on the road, maybe you’ll be willing to sacrifice some of the sound
and feel on behalf of portability. Among the new ones, there’s no doubt
that the best choice would be a Hammond Suzuki XB-3 and a Leslie 122XB,
assuming you have no financial restrictions. Under a moderate budget,
I’d choose a Hammond Suzuki XB-2 along with a Leslie 303 cabinet.
Nevertheless, I think the optimum investment would be a second hand Korg
CX-3 organ and a Motion Sound Pro-3 speaker. Both units are extremely
portable. Before the introduction of the digital clones, the Korg CX-3
organ was the second best choice among many pros after the Hammond B-3
itself. Also, Motion Sound’s Pro-3 speaker is the best Leslie cabinet
clone, and the only one in its size category to feature an actual
rotating horn.
What does Jon Lord think about these Hammond wannabes? In an interview
appearing in Modern Keyboard Magazine (January ‘89), Jon said there were
some keyboards out there that could sound incredibly similar to a
Hammond, but that you couldn’t get them to sound like Hammond. He said
that even those Korg keyboards (I assumed he was reffering to the CX-3’s
and BX-3’s) had a knob that let you control the amount of overdrive. But
he finally said that a man like him, of his height and weight, couldn’t
play a keyboard that was no longer than his arm. He said it wouldn’t
look right. He also recalled the 1974 California Jam concert, saying
they were in front of 300,000 people, and that he was behind his
Hammond, and he felt cool.
Also, in the same Keybaord Magazine interview of January 1993, Jon said
that although the Hammond Suzuki XB-2 digital organ was good enough, it
wasn’t a real Hammond in the end. He couldn’t replace his original
tonewheel Hammond for a digital clone. Upon asked upon the possibilty of
playing a digital organ fitted into a C-3 wooden enclosure, so as to
give a visual impression of a real Hammond C-3, he said that the same
kind of proposal was made to him one day by one of his roadies. His
answer was... In your dreams, pal!
Finally, I would like to apologize to Svante Petterson and any other
members participating from the list, in case my opinions about Jens
Johansson might have been received as too agressive and/or offensive. I
went back to my original post and realized that some words were rude.
The least of my intentions were to make someone feel uncomfortable. I
hope my apologies are welcome.
Sorry Dean. This time I really extended myself. But it’s just that I’m
too passionate about this Jon Lord / Hammond organ subject (well, that’s
no news after all).
Eduardo Avello
Concepción
Chile
{Dean "No Apology Needed" Webb: Hey, no apology needed... (Like my name
says...) John's Hammond is something quite worthy of passion... I wish I
had a button on my computer to make it sound like a Hammond every time I
typed a letter.}
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-----Original Message-----
From: n_borger(at-a-domain-named)higgroep.nl
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 7:43 AM
Subject: Page & Coverdale
JGibbes wrote:
>Legend has it that Mr Page could not stand Mr Coverdale's constant on
stage swearing.
So that would make a chance for Coverdale/Page II very slim.
Nico
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-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Ortiz
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Coverdale/Page
>Coverdale/Page only played in Japan. This occured in December 1993.
>I have a decent video from this tour, Osaka 12/20/93 which I would
>
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If I recall correctly, Guy Pratt (Pink Floyd) played bass and shared
vocals in some songs during this show. I always thought he did the whole
Japan tour.
Antonio
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Richardson
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 6:21 PM
Subject: Jess Thunder's brother Jeff
Regarding the question: "Garth Rocket, Jeff Thunder - psuedonyms for
which band member ?" , I must admit I am surprised that no one mentioned
he wasn't Jeff, but Jess. At least, that's always how I understood it.
But since Big Ian likes his alter egos so maybe he played the parts of
two brothers.
Also, I'm not a Hammond expert (others on the list are I'm sure), but the
question was asked: "Lordy's old C3. Does anyone ( Svante? ) know
whatever happened to The Great Man's old C3?". I'm under the impression
that someone screwed up the organ he originally had electrically.
Although I don't remember the particulars.
Dreaming of a Purple Christmas,
Rob
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Tiplady
To: DP List
Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 5:58 PM
Subject: Ian Gillan Autobiography
Anyone who aint got a copy of Ian's book should order one right now ! I
have just finished reading it and I have to say it is brilliant. It is a
very informative and personal insight into the life of Ian and Purple . I
am even more into the band than ever after reading it !
Hope you all had a great Christmas . Happy new year and keep on Purple
rockin' . !
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From: Wilmoth, Jim
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 12:09 PM
Subject: Jeff Fenholt - fact, fiction, or fraud?
Thank you for bring up Mr. Fenholt! What is up with this guy anyway? Is it
just me or is he trying to come off as Ian Gillan. He was NEVER on a Deep
Purple, Rainbow, or Black Sabbath album (Whitesnake for that matter...).
To
the best of my knowledge, he NEVER toured with these bands. Where is his
documentation? Maybe he did perform in JCSS, but let's face it when you
think of JCSS, you think of Mr. Gillan who performance is documented on
record I might add. Where is Mr Fenholt's documentation???
Mr. Fenholt, if by some chance you read this (or if someone knows where to
forward this) please explain yourself. It's fine you have your TV show.
It's fine you want to see people come to a relationship with God. But
isn't
your little story about performing with Ritchie Blackmore et al just a tad
contrived? And even if you did 'jam' in a pub with these guys once do you
really think that gives you grounds for what you make such proud claims of?
If anyone would like to defend Mr. Fenholt, I would be happy to hear from
you either via email or DP Digest.
{Dean "Editor" Webb: I have it on REALLY GOOD authority that Fenholt does
not subscribe to the list under that name. If he does subscribe under a
different name, he hasn't let it slip... ANYway, I would prefer future
Fenholt *discussion* to be done off-line. I'd be happy to chat about that
stuff, but I don't want to turn this into the "Fenholt's Got Some Nerve
Digest". To quote from the Book of Gillan, 32:3, "...and another thing I
won't discuss is reeeeeligion..." (From the parable of Ted the Mechanic).
Passing references to Fenholt are quite allright. EXAMPLE: "Gee, that's
about as likely as Fenholt singing on Iommi's new solo LP!" (To indicate
doubt regarding an event coming to pass.) Humorous references, like,
"Didn't Fenholt replace David in Whitesnake when Coverdale went over to
C/P??" are just fine, as well.
For those who aren't familiar with the claimed escapades of Jeff Fenholt,
there are some good links from http://www.black-sabbath.com (remember the
dash!), which should be in the World Top 100 sites, along with
http://www.deep-purple.com, and especially ahead of Hanson! Have fun voting
and... oooh! There she goes again!}
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Richardson
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 4:23 PM
Subject: Ritchie's one of the nicest ?
I recently read an interview with Axel Rudi Pell, where he said something
about Ritchie Blackmore that I think most Deep Purple fans would seem
odd.
The quote is, about meeting Ritchie for the first time recently : " I
think that he is one of the nicest persons I have ever met in the music
business."
Now, I know Pell thinks the world of Ritchie's music (I do too), but I
think when discussing Blackmore, the word "nicest" wouldn't be one of the
first 475 words you'd hear.
Either Ritchie was having a great day, Candice has really changed him,
or........ gosh, I'm not sure what might be the reason for this. Maybe
people in the music business are so cruel, that Ritchie is considered
nice.
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>From the editor... dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Well, we got 201 active subscribers right now! Yay!
Sorry for the time between updates, but vacation happened. Anyway, I'll
keep trying to keep up as best I can. I'm doing a little research in both
WWII and early Christianity (love that history), looking for a new job (not
too hard) and discovering a chunk of my wife's family that we weren't able
to meet with until just now... phew. Just keep your cards and letters
coming, though, and I'll take care of you all just fine!
Happy New Year to all of you on the Reformed Gregorian Calendar! (Julian
HNY in 2 weeks, Thai, Chinese, Islamic, Japanese, Hebrew, and other
calendars as appropriate.)
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