DEEP PURPLE DIGEST #27
In this issue:
SPECIAL "THE EDITOR IS *W*R*O*N*G*" ISSUE!
Deep Purple Scandinavian Nights Workout
Your editor is a practising masochist
Gillan and Born Again
Gillan's Voice and Born Again
Covers of DP songs by other bands
Live in London remasters
Votes for DP members in non-DP lineups
69 and Zero the Hero
Australian Intentions
Ritchie When the Tape is Rolling
Detroit Audiences
More on DP Covers
DP in Oz
re: Uriah Heep
DP in non-DP situations
Attendance figures
Purple in Oz (more)
Rat Bat Bat Bat Blue
300000 versions of the truth in California
DP in more non-DP situations
More of them votes
SPECIAL SECTION
Scandinavian Nights: The Video History from Birgit
Svante puts the record straight
Et tu, Brian?
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>From Dean Webb; mailto:dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Deep Purple Scandinavian Nights Workout
OK, it's time I started working out again so I don't have to buy new pants.
I cranked up the old exercycle so I don't freeze my ears off *and* can jam
out with a real stereo, not some punk Walkman.
I started with a tape of "Black and Blue", a tape of a Black Sabbath/Blue
Oyster Cult concert. I played "Neon Knights" and "NIB" from that set. Dio
rules on "Neon Knights", by the way. (Side note: I wondered if Rainbow or
Whitesnake ever did any other DP tunes besides "Mistreated." Anybody know?)
Then I decided to put on Scandinavian Nights: the LP, since I was going to
get beat up about the LP/video differences in this issue of the list. Now,
when I ride the stationary bike, I like to keep at a speed of 30-40 MPH
(sorry, the bike's not metric... that would be 40-50 KPH) for 20-30 minutes,
depending on the length of the album side. I also like to play "air drums"
and keep up with the drummer I'm listening to to get that upper-body
workout.
Keeping up with Vinnie Appice was at a reasonable level of difficulty. He
kept real good time, which helped. When I put side 2 of Scandinavian Nights
on, though, I nearly had a stroke trying to duplicate Ian Paice!
This version of "Speed King" was amazing. First, it had the "Blackmore
doesn't know the tape is rolling" factor, which meant the guitar was going
to be grand. (Just like I remembered it woule be!) What I forgot, though,
was that Ian Paice was from the *progressive* school of drumming, which
meant they didn't drum to keep time. They drummed to rival the solos of the
other players in the group. John Bonham, Keith Moon, and Bill Ward come to
mind as drummers that slung beats around with reckless abandon the way
Paicey did on this track.
I was SO thankful for that quiet part in the middle so I could catch my
breath a while, but when that wild climax started to build, I knew I was in
trouble. Somewhere in the last verse, I cried out, "Nunca mais!" (don't know
why it was Portuguese this time... that just happens, sometimes), and let my
arms fly off to the side as I exploded, leaving a blob of green jelly on the
bicycle seat.
Thank goodness I expired before the drum solo on "Paint it Black"! All this
made me wonder why drummers don't explode on stage more often. If you think
you're in shape, just you try and keep up with Ian on this track. Now, I
know not all of you have this LP or CD, so I'll keep looking for other
workout tracks you may want to try.
"Speed King" from Scandinavian Nights, though, is the best. At the end, Ian
Gillan says, "Speed King is a song that will raise a sweat... among other
things." Time to towel down...
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>From Dean Webb: mailto:dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Your editor is a practising masochist...
It's been a while since I've had to update the Critic's Corner, Links, or
Celebrity Deathmatch pages. We've had a number of new subscribers in the
past few weeks, so you newbies and grognards need to strut your stuff!
(Grognards was a nickname for Napoleon's Old Guards.) New member or old,
suggest your links, 1-10 ratings for DP discs, or bands that rock da house
(haus in German) as hard as Purple. If you're swift with HTML, you could
even copy the format of a Celeb. D-match page and forward the code to me. If
you want ideas, I could always use pages for Rainbow, Pink Floyd, Judas
Priest, Rush, Blue Oyster Cult, The Who, Hendrix, Mountain, and anybody else
that really rocks/blues/cools/metals out.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wilmoth, Jim
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: Gillan/B.A./B.S.
Two things.
1) Fans forget that just before B.A. Gillan (the band) had put out some
great albums with a great band line up.
2) B.A's strength was Gillan not B.S. I mean come on guys B.S. played
Smoke on the Water as their encore that tour. How weak is that to play a
D.P. song when your B.S. for an encore? Next thing you know D.P. will be
playing Paranoid...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Zoso
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:40 AM
Subject: Born Again - Gillan's voice
I'd like to add my appreciation of Gillan's performance on "Born Again" to
the list. I've always had a bit of a love-hate relationship with BA,
probably as it followed "Mob Rules", which IMHO was the crowning moment of
Dio era Sabbath. However as the years have gone on I've found myself
digging out BA more and more.
Songs like "Digital Bitch" and "Hot Line" seem almost throw away and a bit
like piss-takes, but Iommi's riffs and Gillan's screams are absolutely
killer. My personal faves have got to be "Trashed" ("Well BLESS my
sooouuuUUAAAAAOOOOOAALLLLLL!!!!!"), "Stonehenge" going into "Disturbing the
Priest" (subtlety, what's subtlety?!?!?!) and "Keep it Warm" has a great
riff and feel to it, the only track without any screaming on I believe!
I honestly feel that the power and range of Gillan's voice is unparalleled
on this album and I have never heard him scream better, from the low throat
garglers to the glass shatterers right up to the stratospheric ones. His
voice is awesome on BA, but listen to him just a year later on "Perfect
Strangers" and it sounds as if he can hardly scream at all. Has anyone else
noticed how weak his screams are during say, "Hungry Daze". He sings great
on PS but there certainly seems to be no comparison. I wonder what it would
have sounded like if we'd had the DP reunion a year earlier...
Simon C.
[Dean "ed" Webb: I know Gillan said he went in for tonsil surgery just after
the Perfect Strangers tour. Could be a reason. IG was certainly hollering
plenty on recent stuff I've seen of his.]
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-----Original Message-----
From: John LaRocque
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Deep Purple Digest #26
Brigitt writes:
>To John LaRocque: Uah...you posted your comments related to my post on both
the DP Mailing List and the Werock-Diolist...:-)
Yes, that's true! Seemed like something worth crossposting. I've just
dropped off the we-rock because of traffic, but it's a nice place if you
really like Dio-music. Mozy on over.
>Primal Fear - Speed King
With Kai Hansen!
>Impellitteri - Highway Star
I've heard that on a bootleg of his. Chris is so cool. Bob Rock (singer) was
on a couple of ARP-related records, and even recorded with Graham Bonnett.
Nice cover of "Over the Rainbow".
>I'm mainting my own mailing list about the subject of Axel Rudi Pell
Remind me to join up!
>"Live in London" by DP, in a selling list of a big German Mailorder CD
Could be the expensive Japanese import from Teichiku. Best to wait and see.
EMI is supposed to be doing the remaster soon.
Tom Swoboda attemps to correct me on YJM:
>Five out of ten of the tracks on Inspiration were Blackmore covers: Three
Gillan DP, one Coverdale DP, and one Dio Rainbow.
Bzzzzt. My Inspiration CD is 11 tracks (with Japanese bonus). 5/11 is still
almost half an album.
>How the hell am I supposed to find Stratovarious B-Sides?
Japan. Where else? ;-)
John LaRocque
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jouni Maho
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:43 AM
Subject: Remasters: Live in London
Svante replied to Alexandro who wrote:
>>
>>I've just got a copy of MADE IN JAPAN 25th Anniversary Edition - 2CD. In
>>the liner notes it mentions that LIVE IN LONDON and another album (which I
>>don't remember) would be remastered soon. Does anyone know if both
remastered
>>versions have been released?
>
>The other album to be remastered is "Who do we think we are", the last in
>the Mk.II anniversary releases. WDWTWA is supposed to be out early 1999 but
>Live in London has been postponed with no set release date.
perhaps it's worthwhile mentioning that the LiL has been "on its way" for
about ten years. it might not come that soon.
---
jouni
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-----Original Message-----
From: Masser of Reality
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Deep Purple Digest #26
ok heres votes for dp members best
Rainbow- live in europe
black sabbath- born again
glenn hughes- burning japan live
fave ian gillan scream- the "AaaahAaaahAaaahAaaah" in keep it warm
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hatheway-SSI
To: 'dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com'
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:08 PM
Subject: 69 / ZERO THE HERO
>N. Borger
>[Dean "Yes!!! Another "69" Fan!!!" Webb: Your ma said you slept real good
in your food last night! Abandon rules and "69" rules Abandon!!! Yes!
AND YOU BROKE UP A REAL GOOD FIGHT...
Great Song!
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>hearing the Cannibal Corpse version of Zero the Hero made me
>retch).
>--T.J.
It was absolutely hideous!! Good Grief.
TomH
Sunnyvale CA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Svante Pettersson
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Purple in Australia
Paul Sommer wrote:
>can anyone one on the list ( or editor) please confirm plans for a tour
>of Australia in March????
Yes, I can confirm that there are plans, but I can't confirm any details
yet. Stay tuned.
/Svante
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Richardson
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 3:06 PM
Subject: Ritchie when the tape is rolling
Regarding Dean Webb's comment about Stockholm '70: "On
their live recordings, I have heard it said that they got uptight when
they knew the tapes were rolling, but really cut loose every other time. If
they didn't know they were being taped, it probably had a better than
average
chance of being awesome."
I understand that Ritchie was this way especially, and in the studio as
well. He'd play fantastic when just messing around, but when the
recording light was on he'd become very conscious of it and his
performance would suffer. Roger would even run tape without the
recording light being on to catch Ritchie's performances that wouldn't be
heard otherwise.
Also I can agree with Paul Sommer's choices for Steve Morse's peak
performances: Sometimes i Feel Like Screaming & Dont make me Happy.
Those do kick, and I am a major Blackmore fan. As for coming up with
Ritchie's best performances, that would take a while to go through
material that would be most guitarists best moments that are just average
or below average for Ritchie. But off the top of my head, I sure like
Burn and Why Didn't Rosemary.
Rob
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-----Original Message-----
From: Laurens Andrew van't Zelfde
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 3:11 PM
Subject: larget audience
Of course Detroit had the largest audience. Despite everything else, no
other city appreciates good music and especially good rock like the motor
city. Incidentally, it was one of the best performances in N.America to
boot!
Laurens van't Zelfde
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-----Original Message-----
From: Svante Pettersson
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 3:52 PM
Subject: Cover versions
T.J. wrote:
>Anyway, are there any other good DP covers out there I might have missed.
Some recent ones I can think of is "Perfect Strangers" with Dream Theater
(on their album "A change of seasons"), "Mistreated" on Dio's latest live
album "Inferno" and "Speed King" by some weird band called "Steve Morse
Band". :^) Steve's version of Speed King is on the Japanese version of
Stressfest. Um, I think. :^)
/Svante
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Currin
To: Paul Sommer ; Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:16 PM
Subject: DP in Oz
Hi Paul
Try this link for an Australian CD mail-order company - very cool guys and
very helpful.
This link takes you straight to Deep Purple. If they don't have what you
want e-mail the webmaster.
http://www.noizenet.com.au/cgi-bin/frames/artist.idc?ID=900
Cheers
Brian
-----Brian Currin----
www.new.co.za/~currin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Collins
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 6:02 PM
Subject: Re:Uriah Heep
I'm also one of those early Heep fans that never quite understood the
negative attitude Purple fans frequently display towards the band. They
sprang from the same roots as Purple, and the early albums have a lot of
the same musical stylings as the Purps did. However, in my opinion, Heep
lost their way after their "Live" LP in 1973. The first 5 studio albums
are excellent, with "Look At Yourself" probably being the best one, with
"Demons And Wizards" close behind. Most of the albums from 74-94 are so
hit and miss, and crippled with numerous line-up changes, that they lost
all credibility. Unlike Purple however, they've released some truly
horrible records, that are embarrassingly bad. Among them are "Different
World", "Raging Silence", "Equator" and most of the John Lawton era
stuff. I saw them live three times while he was the singer, and they
weren't bad in concert, just on vinyl. But the anti-Heep attitude goes
way back before that. It seems even more bitter than the Zep/Purple
feud. I don't understand where that came from. The Zep thing seems to
stem from them being so much more popular than all their 70's
contemporaries. Purple fans seem to resent Zeppelin's success,
feeling Purple suffered in the shadows. Heep never had the success
Purple did, so I don't get the rivalry. Granted, Purple had the dignity
to disintegrate in 1976, after releasing a good, but different, album,
while Heep lumbered through the decade, releasing the most faceless
series of records in rock history (next to Foghat that is). They also
had so many line-up changes, that they make Blackmore look like a
long-term employer. Hmmmm, while proofing this, I'm struck with the
thought that I may have answered my own question. Never
mind. Jim C.
[Dean "What anti-Heep attitude?" Webb: What anti-Heep attitude? So we're not
all their biggest fans... so far, I've heard pretty strong recommends for
their first few years and the latest stuff they made. Not very anti-, now,
is that? Or do we need to have DP '73 go against UH '73 head-to-head?
As far as Zeppelin goes, DP and LZ don't really compare one-to-one for me.
LZ was bluesier and muscially closer to Jethro Tull in my opinion. LZ
contributed a few guys to Screaming Lord Sutch, though, so they had to have
some redeeming features...]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Runyon
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 6:15 PM
Subject: Favorite "outside DP albums"
Top three albums (outside of DP) by members of DP
1. Born Again--Black Sabbath (Ian Gillan)
2. Glory Road--Gillan (Ian Gillan)
3. Seventh Star--Black Sabbath (Glenn Hughes)
Also, in reply to the person who asked about videos done by DP,
they did videos of "Nobody's Home" and "Perfect Strangers" (or was it
"Knocking At Your Back Door"?) that were played quite often by MTV about
1985 or so.
Matt Runyon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Corcoran
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:28 PM
Subject: attendance figures
I was perusing the attedance figures. I went to the tinley park show.
Apparently ticket sales were quite poor. The night before the show I was in
the Crows Nest. Which is a really well stocked record store, not far from
the concert venue. Near the cash register, I noticed what looked to be
tickets.
These tickets turned out to be vouchers , which could be exchanged for
tickets
to the show. Cost? $3.00. I took 20. The vouchers were free. It cost me
$3.00
to enter the show. The show was fantastic! The crowd was relatively small.
I'm just glad I was there.
voting:
Album: Burn
Song : Lazy
Member: Ritchie
Cheers
Cork
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Newman
To: 'dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com'
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 4:20 AM
Subject: Purple in OZ (Australia)
G'day,
Well I suppose after reading everyone else contributions through issues 1-26
I thought It was probably about time I put in!!!!
I have heard the rumors too, let's hope the managers and promoters can get
their act together and sort something out cause there are a LOT of older
(like me) and newer fans that are hanging out to see them.
I last saw the boys back in '84 at the start of the Perfect Strangers world
tour and we have been starved ever since. Just missed out seeing them on
their first tour back in 71 but I was only 12 at the time and wasn't allowed
to go!!
Anyway hope they do get here next year, I'll have to save the money and
follow them round the country. Maybe they could also come here in 2000 for
the closing of the 2000 Sydney Olmypic's (imagine playing in front of
110,000 people at the closing ceremony, well I can dream can't I !!).
And finally, Paul Sommers asked in issue 26 about getting copies of
Concerto
Book of Talisyn
Slaves and Masters
As far as I know they ARE available locally, because I've seen them. Maybe
contact a HMV music store in Sydney (and they are reasonably priced).
I've only had to pay extra through the import shops for the most recent
stuff and MH25.
See Ya!
John Newman
jsnewman(at-a-domain-named)ozemail.com.au
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-----Original Message-----
From: n_borger(at-a-domain-named)higgroep.nl
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 5:58 AM
Subject: Rat Bat Blue
Ilija wrote:
>Favourite song: Rat Bat Blue
Great choise!
>( I think this one would fit excellent in the on going tour...)
Wouldn't it be nice if DP would record a new version of Rat Bat Blue
to add on their new CD, just like they did with Bludsucker on Abandon.
N. Borger
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-----Original Message-----
From: n_borger(at-a-domain-named)higgroep.nl
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:14 AM
Subject: Audience of 300000
Svante wrote:
>>What was the largest audience Deep Purple has ever played for?
>Must be California Jam 1974. According to the cover of my video from that
>show the audience was 300000(!) people.
Is that a 3 with 5 zero's, 300.000? Live at the California Jam, 6th April
1974 at the Ontario Speedway near Los Angeles, I must find myself
a copy of this video!
N. Borger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sean P Powers
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 1:43 PM
Subject: Top 3 Non-DP, yet DP albums
Here's my Top 3 non-DP albums by DP guys (great new thread!):
1. Whitesnake: Whitesnake
2. Rainbow: Rising
3. Gillan: Mr. Universe
Sean Powers Phone: (201) 684-5582
Ramapo College of NJ e-mail: spowers(at-a-domain-named)ramapo.edu
Elm F WWW: http://orion.ramapo.edu/~spowers
"Rock n' roll is my religion and my law...
You can't kill rock n' roll, it's here to stay."
-Ozzy Osbourne, '81
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Traynor
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 2:56 PM
Subject: My votes for best ever...
Song - Studio When a blind man cries
Live Highway Star
Album - Studio Fireball
Live Japan
Member- The rythem section - with my fave being Mr Paice, what a guy...
Thats all
Andy Traynor
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-----Original Message-----
From: BSchwanke(at-a-domain-named)aol.com
To: dplist(at-a-domain-named)geocities.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:35 PM
Subject: Scandinavian Nights
Hey Dean!
Maybe you got me wrong. I didn't talk about the CD "Scandinavian Nights" I
talked about the Video tape. Maybe it's stated wrong on the tapes case but
it
says the concert (on the video) was recorded on Denmark, March 1st, 1972.
The quality is..let's say okay..it's old and mono sound...a little excerpt
from
the case:
"In March 1972, Deep Purple had just finished work on the Machine Head
album, which was to take them to the top of the album charts across the
world. This show contains three songs from that LP, together with half a
dozen classics from their earlier stage act..."
So, this video must have been filmed in 1972...and I can remember that I saw
an advertisement at the end of the video for the CD version and I think it's
said there said the CD was recorded in 1970...strange stuff. I haven't got
the
Scandinavian Nights CD, so I can't check it out. Are this two different
concerts..one on video and one on CD?
The setlist for the video is:
Highway Star, Strange kind of woman, Child in time, The mule, Lazy, Space
truckin', Fireball, Lucille & Black Night....
It was released in 1990 under the name of: Deep Purple - Live in Denmark,
March 1972 Scandinavian Nights.
Connoisseur Collection Video CCV 1000
Regards,
Birgitt
[Dean "Owch!" Webb: the LP is a recording of a 1970 concert.]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Svante Pettersson
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Scandinavian Nights
Birgitt wrote:
>I'm currently running "Scandinavian Nights" on TV (while I'm learning for
my
>exams for next week and writing strange e-mails :-) and the first though
>that came to my mind when a had a look at the case was that the Concert was
>recorded in 1972.
Dean added:
>[Dean "I'm a Purist" Webb: Actually, the Scandinavian Nights LP from the
>DPAS was a 1970 recording, before Fireball or any other Mk2 release.
Yes, the SN album was recorded 1970 in Stockholm but the *video* was
recorded 1972 in Copenhagen. Why? Well, um... They were both recorded at
night...in Scandinavia...? Or something? ;^)
/Svante
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Currin
To: Deep Purple Digest
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:16 PM
Subject: dp
Hi Dean
How dare I challenge our esteemed moderator, but you have made an error!!!
Birgitt wrote:
>I traded some stuff with a friend and I received a couple of VHS Cassettes
today including DP's Scandinavian Nights and the Concert...
I'm currently running "Scandinavian Nights" on TV.
>[Dean "I'm a Purist" Webb: Actually, the Scandinavian Nights LP from the
DPAS was a 1970 recording, before Fireball or any other Mk2 release.
There were 2 Scandinavian Nights - one was the LP and CD of the November
1970 concert in Stockholm, the second was a video recorded in Copenhagen in
March 1972.
Cheers
Brian
-----Brian Currin----
www.new.co.za/~currin
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Just for the record, Nobody's Perfect had a bunch of stuff in it from
Scandinavian performances, so they could've called that one Scandinavian
Nights, too, I suppose. Actually, isn't any performance between September
and March at night up there? I mean, with the axial tilt and all... Say,
that reminds me of a Finnish joke I heard...
Two Finnish guys are in a bar, drinking. They're drinking for a few hours
when one of them lets out a long sigh. The other guy turns and says, "Hey!
Quiet over there! I came here to drink, not to talk!"
Hope I didn't offend the Finnish contingent on the list, but, rather,
provided them with the warmth of humor for that 6-month night... I suppose
they may have a few American jokes to retaliate, eh? Say, that reminds me of
the American, the North Korean, and the French guy...
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